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Date: 05-Feb-2001 21:30:00    (Original: 04-Feb-2001 18:06:00)

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I have been involved in learning more about and implementing problem based learning since 1995.I have learned something from all the articles sent on e-mail.

PBL 1 - This article gives lots of good background on the basic theory in this method. I like the idea of having students valued as thinkers, and that they are able to solve problems. If people want to have life long learners, this is a method that should be added to all teacher's "Book of Methods."I like the idea of teaching how to ask the questions that will help answer the problem. There was not enough information in the area of 3rd-4th grade learners. They are beyond the first grade example , but not ready for the complexities of the upper grades.

PBL 2 - This article does talk about the method I use in my class for projects., the KWL Charts. These are good ideas, and help kids visually see the direction things can go. This will be used in my class on 2-5-01, as we begin our Groundhog Project. We are doing a six week project checking on the old saying about the groundhog's shadow. My class is collecting data from around the US, as well as sharing ours. We are collecting the temperatures by an email list I set up today. When the data has been gathered for the various places (11), they will divide into groups to graph the below and above 40' temps for their site. They see if there were more warmer or colder temps for the six weeks. Our product and conclusions will go on our web page. This is the second year I've done this.

PBL 3 - This article gets into the "Postholes"method ,and I was not familiar with this term, but it seems to mean " a short dig "into and research on a topic. I have not used short term problems, and this is a new thought to pursue. I have been thinking about this as a way for solving problems as they arise in class.
Possible ones to solve : noise that bothers others in the class, borrowing things with out asking, the noise level in the lunchroom( aplace easy to end up missing recess at noon!). I see it as a way to let the kids own the problem and solve it.

PBL 4 - The example of the sixth graders preparing for the state tests seems "right down my alley!" Our district has been working on this , and this is an article that should be discussed at may administrative levels, but put into action in the classroom. We must take Iowa Test of Basic Skills in the end of March. This would be a good time to begin to plan for the kids to be ready without fear of tests. I have been preparing lessons for the class to learn the "How" of bubble sheets,question format,but this will give ownership to the kids.

It has given me another excellent example to "retool" and apply in my class. This is what I think you wanted "us farmers" to learn.




 


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Date: 04-Feb-2001 18:51:00

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I really like the Groundhog Day comments. I'be been to the Annual Groundhog Day Parade in Unadilla but I'm sure that the 6 week project would have more meaning. Even if you decide not to use this as part of a project, I'm sure we would like to see the results. Agreed, the data base does not include many projects for the 3-5 grade folks - looking forward to yours.
Good comment - "short dig"!
Noise in the classroom bothers a lot of observers, doesn't it? Quiet is OK if all that is desired is 'vegetation'.
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Date: 06-Feb-2001 12:19:00

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I enjoyed reading your thoughts about pbl and ownership of problems. The more we can help students recognize problems and the methodology for solving them the better we will be as a society. Thanks for sharing. The "quick dig" comment was very appropriate.
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Date: 07-Feb-2001 18:50:00

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I really liked your "possible problems." Noise in the classroom, borrowing supplies, etc... are all relevant issues for both teachers and students!! xxxxxxxx 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 07:02:00

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I concur with all the replys. Your comments are insightful. PBL is where we need to be as educators at least part of the time. There are difficulties to overcome but the rewards are tremendous.
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Date: 07-Feb-2001 11:05:00

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I teach computer applications and much of the research indicates that learning technology is more effectively done within a "context" rather than independently. Problem based learning would useful in integrating technology and the internet into a multi-discipline question. Post-hole activities, or shorter problem based learning situations seem to be more appropriate for my curriculum. After learning a particular type of technology, a question could be posed to the students which would incorporate the use of that technology. For example, databases could be used for data collection and comparison, spreadsheets could be used to chart or graph progress or changes in the data. Students would be encouraged to organize the data in a way that would help them predict or create possible solutions for the problem.

One post hole problem might be to track livestock prices on the live market compared to the futures market and enter the data into spreadsheets for analysis. Another post hole problem could be comparison of grain production from year to year and the impact of gasoline prices on grain prices and ethanol production. This could incorporate the use of databases and spreadsheets.

Using presentation software and multimedia tools, students could be asked to create products that would communicate their findings and conclusions. For example, the economic/environmental impact of preserving the Loess Hills.

The Council Bluffs Community Schools have validations as part of their graduation requirements. These validations are acquired through performance based assessments. The problem based learning approach could be very intertwined with this type of assessment. Creating authentic questions and assessments and requiring students to use higher level thinking skills and creating a product fits very well with performance based assessments.

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Problem-Based Learning as Classroom Solution

I appreciated the simple listing of the characteristics of problem-based learning:
1. Begin with a problem
2. Ensure that the problem connects with the students' world.
3. Organize the subject matter around the problem, not around the disciplines
4. Give students the major responsibility for shaping and directing their own learning.
5. Use small teams as the context
6. Require students to demonstrate what they have learned through a product or performance.

The author also explained the concept of "post-hole"--inserting a smaller problem based lesson into the regular program.

I appreciated that this learning experience challenged students to a greater maturity and developed self-directed learners. I find it interesting that Alfie Kohn believes that students who are preoccupied with how they're doing tend to lose interest in what they're doing especially in the context of high-stakes testing that many states are currently promoting.

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Helping Students Ask the Right Question

This article challenges educators to rethink how students learn and how long-term instruction is accomplished. Our challenge as educators is to implement constructivism into our curriculum, not merely embracing the theory.

The complexity of the world and the increasing rise of technology requires all of us to become lifelong learners. The author indicated that the half-life of an engineering degree is currently estimated at four years. In four years, half of what an engineering graduate has learned becomes obsolete.

To help students develop into the type of learners they need to become, we must challenge students to attain higher levels of thinking. We need question-driven problem-solving strategies that are comprehensive, adaptable, discriminating, productive, and transferable. I also think it is helpful to students to help them recognize there isn't always a "right" answer, but they need t learn to make a decision or formulate an action plan on the basis of the best information available.

"By learning these question-based problem-solving strategies, students become more effective questioners, thinkers, and learners. They learn from one another as well as from the teacher and materials." This produces a positive, engaging classroom.

I find the quote from Ernest Boyer interesting. He said "An educated person today is someone who knows the right question to ask" (Fiske, 1995, p. 65)

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Problem-Based Learning: As Authentic as It Gets

The authors suggest the following student approach in problem based learning: assess what they know, identify what they need to know, gather information, and collaborate on the evaluation of the hypotheses in light of the data they have collected.

The focus of problem based learning seems to be the development of an ill-structured problem which requires learners to probe for connections, deal with complexity, and use their knowledge to fashion solutions. Students may discover that the problem changes during this process. The students will never be sure they have made the right decision, but they will experience having to make the best possible decision based on the information at hand.

The teacher role changes in problem based learning. Teachers become coaches and tutors and provide modeling for asking probing in-depth questions. To encourage students' independence, teachers must fade into the background and assume the role of a colleague.

"Post-Hole" problems are defined as short problems that can be used when teacher don't want to design their entire course around problems, but do want to introduce on occasionally. As students solve the problem, they will learn content and skills as well.

I found this article interesting because it ties in very well with the performance based assessments that we use as graduation requirements in the Council Bluffs Community Schools.
 


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Date: 07-Feb-2001 12:32:00

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"They learn from one another as well as from the teacher and materials."
How very true. We just need to to be sure that we can provide a 'rich' environment in which the learning can happen.
'Testing' will become a topic in which the results may surprise some folks.  


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Date: 07-Feb-2001 18:47:00

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I always enjoy reading your answers!! I miss seeing you at TJ! It was nice that you mentioned performance based assessments, too. I really feel that PBL is just the next step up from PBA. Of course, I could be misunderstanding the concept. xxxxxxxx


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 07:08:00

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Great comments you really seem to have a grasp on the PBL concept. I agree that "posthole" PBL is very benificial in some curricular areas. I think it is more suited to high school where we don't see the same students all day and have a more difficult time with interdisciplinary content because we don't teach all the subjects. One last thing....the idea of economic/environmental impact of preserving the loess hills is intriguing to me. I can see a great project in that idea. Even if you don't go that way I see alot of creativity and thought here. Looking forward to seeing what you will come up with...
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Date: 10-Feb-2001 22:46:00

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It was interesting that you pointed out the author's comments on the engineer's knowledge half-life. This certainly illustrates the need to teach students how to learn, doesn't it? Things are so rapidly changing. This is true in the area of computers and technology. There are so many new and exciting developments and improvements in software and hardware. We all need to know how to learn, don't we? 


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Date: 16-Feb-2001 15:25:00

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I like the way you did your analysis. 


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Date: 07-Feb-2001 19:33:00    (Original: 07-Feb-2001 18:44:00)

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Our district has been involved in Performance Based Assessments for several years. One significant parallel I see between PBA and PBL is that both present the learner with an "authentic" problem in an effort to activate student interest. Also, in both PBA and PBL, the activities become more student initiated and less teacher directed. The teacher becomes the facilitator of learning rather than the source of information.

A significant difference between PBL and PBA, as I have seen it developed in our district, is that PBA is less open ended that PBL. The PBA problems do not seem
as "messy" as PBL cases. In both there is not necessarily a "right" answer, but the PBA approach looks for answers that are logical and well supported given the information that the student has acquired in the classroom or through individual research. In the PBL activities, my impression is that students have more opportunities to determine the nature of the problem. This approach broadens the possible range of student responses immeasurably.

As an alternative school teacher at the high school level, PBL seems a natural "fit". My students have not been successful, for a variety of reasons, in the traditional classroom. Lessons that empower them, allow them to identify issues and seek resolutions, are ideal.

There are a few barriers to implementing "authentic problem based learning". In our alternative setting, students work independently. It seems that one of the repetitive components of the articles was a "group" process. We do have occasional group classes and groups every Wednesday. Perhaps PBL could be worked into those activities through the "post hole" method. Also, I think that it is difficult for students to accept the responsibility for learning. Many alternative students are accustomed to feeling that things, including education, happen "to them". While taking control of the learning process is exciting, it is also frightening for them.

Perhaps the most significant barrier to implementation is time. When do we find time to develop activities that will challenge, but not frustrate, our students. One of my goals, when I registered for this class, was to learn more about harnessing technology in a way that speeds the creation of quality activities for students. I do feel that, initially, the insertion of "post hole" activities would allow both the students and myself to become more proficient in the PBL process.

I believe that a lesson involving decisions about family expenses/living would be interesting for many of my student.

As I reviewed the articles, I found PBL #1, "Helping Students Ask the Right Questions," offered a good general educational basis PBL. Essentially, the authors, indicate that "good" teachers have long known how to develop the "student thinker." Of course, it was interesting to note that several large firms, Honda, Uniroyal Chemical, and Hewlett-Packard, for example use problem solving strategies. I appreciated the classroom examples as "samples".

The organization of article #2, "Learning Centered Schools Using a Problem-Based Approach", was excellent. There was a supporting basis given for PBL followed by guidelines for the implementation of the process. The information was concise and clear. This article went a long way toward explaining how PBL is used in the classroom. I enjoyed the "Pitfalls" section. The authors seemed to be taking a realistic approach.

Article #4, Problem-Based Learning as Classroom Solution," brought my students to mind. What to do with those "least favorite students"? Offering them a chance to resolve a "real" issue, allowing them to seek information in their own way, and giving them some control over their learning, is certainly a way to engage these students. I was pleased to see that the article mentioned a strategy much like the KNL strategy that is a standard in our building.
 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 07:17:00

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I am interested in more of what Iowa is doing in assessment. We in NE are just getting started with this process. Is PBA just a district wide initiative or state wide? How do you do the assessments? How are the results utilized? Well that' enough for my questions....on to your comments. I thought that you brought up several very good points. Time...student control of the learning environment....independent learners or classes. These can be overwhelming issues but PBL can be accomplished with these concerns. I think that you are right in your assessment that postholes will work well in your environment. The short dive into PBL makes the shock easier. As student experience with PBL increases it becomes easier for everyone involved. Good comments.
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Date: 08-Feb-2001 11:32:00

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I liked your comparison of PBL to our PBA's. You brought up some interesting ideas for alternative students. Would it be possible to incorporate online conferencing via e-mail and discussion groups to create "virtual" groups for PBL projects. Again, time would be an issue, but I think it could be a positive experience for students to communicate and collaborate online. It seems that more and more businesses are located at a variety of locations, but more collaboration of workers is required. Another advantage of this form of communication would be that students could accommodate the acitivity to their schedule if they have computers available to them. 


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Date: 16-Feb-2001 15:36:00

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Your mention of the increasing use of collaborative efforts in business is significant. PBL does foster this type of behavior. Initially you could have a student come up with their own solutions and then have discussion groups to compare solutions. Alternative school settings present some interesting challenges. The many skills we must teach to these students as well as the "school subject matter." 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 15:48:00

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Your discussion and input is very interesting. Time is a major issue when working with this PBL stuff. However, with general science students seem to really like this stuff since they are experimenting and have hands on stuff going on and look forward to it on a daily basis. Almost, improves the attendance to your class as well since they like it. Do think that is the reason that they put it first hour for students that are normally late, etc. After all, do they want to miss their favorite class. 


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Date: 16-Feb-2001 15:41:00

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Isn't it amazing how we "manipulate" students! You are right though that PBL does create excitement for students. The challenge for educators is to see the big picture and when developing the problems incorporate several concepts from several units. Getting away from memorization of facts to teaching analysis and problem solving behavior to find the facts when the student eventually need them is difficult for many educators. We forget what is not relevant at the moment very quickly after memorization. PBL deals with relevant issues for the students. 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 18:03:00

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I am curious as to how your district handles PBA. Our school district could definately use some direction with this. I am finding that the focus has been on math and english performance objectives and anything the rest of us do is on our own. I know that the science curriculum will be under scrutiny soon, and I would like to have "my ducks in a row" before someone is telling me how I should teach. We are a very traditional school district hooked on using textbooks and staying exactly within the curriculum guidelines. i.e. if it isn't listed in the guidlines then you better not take the time to teach it.

Time is another factor...how does this all fit in? Since I am not tied to a timeline yet, if I find a topic that kids are interested in then we stick with that and do some PBL. It's good to have kids excited about learning rather than complaining about worksheets, right?

How do you evaluate what has been done? Do you use rubrics, peer evaluation, etc.?

Maybe if we can help kids feel comfortable about being responsible for their learning early in their educational careers, they won't have so much trouble later on.
xxxxxxx...p.s. it's good to have snow days like this once in a while! 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 19:20:00

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I agree on the 'worksheet' bit! I would like to outlaw them except it bring about another superfluous guideline!
And the comment on "feeling comfortable about being responsible" is worth being quoted. "Hooked on textbooks" is another great expression.
It makes me wonder if all this governmental attention will enrich what we do with students or hold it prisoner inside those 'guidelines'.  


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Date: 16-Feb-2001 15:53:00

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With a creative teacher I think almost any curriculum could be adapted to a PBL format. The ability to see the large picture and the interrelation of the units within a discipline and then create the problem is a big part of using this method.

In creating your rubrics you indicate to the students all the concepts that must be dealt with in the final presentation that they make of their solution. Therefore even science teachers and math teachers end up teaching spelling, writing etc. Speech can be taught too in the presentation skills.

PBL is wonderful for interdisciplinary collaboration!

Time of course is an issue but teachers helping teachers, i.e. I will demand Language Arts skills in my problem solutions if you require some reference to history, science, math...

The other important point that this collaboration displays is that students do not see problems in a vaccuum! I used to get so tired of students saying 'why do you take off for spelling, you are not my English teacher.' Does that mean that they see no application of school learning to the real world? SCAREY! 


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Date: 10-Feb-2001 19:37:00    (Original: 10-Feb-2001 19:19:00)

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This response " My students have not been successful, for a variety of reasons, in the traditional classroom. Lessons that empower them, allow them to identify issues and seek resolutions, are ideal."

This response is related to many of the little children I work with.Even at a young age, many have not been sucessful in the primary, and need the experience of control of their education.
I too want my classes to get the advantage of technological education and fun that many do not have the chance to do at home.

 


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Date: 10-Feb-2001 21:37:00

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I can also see the connection between (PBA) Performance Based Assessment and PBL. I think the "messy" conclusions of a PBL activity might make some teachers a little uneasy and many PBA activities do lead students to a specific result; however, I think that a good PBL is actually a PBA at its best. One of the most important parts of a PBA is the assessment of a student as a Complex Thinker. What better way to assess complex thinking than to see how a student can work his/her way through a real-life problem that doesn't have a "correct" answer?

I know the type of student that attends Kanesville and I think that many of them would enjoy these types of activities. Good luck and I'd love to know how it works.  


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Date: 16-Feb-2001 15:32:00

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xxxxxxx, You bring up some very good points. The students in the alternative settings have often really had things happen to them which has so skewed their perception of how the world functions. With problem based activities and good coaching they do learn to accept responsibility and become empowered in a positive way. I think these types of activities are some of the most powerful lessons we can develop for our students. 


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Date: 08-Feb-2001 13:56:00

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PBL #3
Referred to "as authentic as it gets". Interesting application in the discussion of the "Post-Hole". Kind of applies to getting your feet wet without completely jumping in. However, to be good at problem solving involves completely getting wet to let a problem a fair and complete test. Pioneering is a complete involvemnt as well. The Pioneers did not just go west to think about it.

Students do not see the old days anymore. They are in the instant or moment world and that is how they look at questions. If they can not figure it out quickly, they lose interest and constructive time. Starting a fire with flint and steel can be a difficult encounter. Now if they had OOO steel wool to assist them, they would find the encounter more acceptable.

We are doing this in class with distillation of water for General Science now. Let them come across a way of purifying water on their own first. Than the teacher gave them direction and got the job done three days later. Time takes longer on this type of PBL. However, it did lead to more problems like any experiment would. They have the tendency to come before the solutions do. Now, we are working on destructive distillation of wood chips and collecting the gases and of course smelling up the class room and the hall way. At least it is getting around. Science is really flowing through the school.

PBL #1

Helping students ask the right questions!

This report really goes into depth with learning. Bloom's taxonomy is still a useful tool. New methods of reaching teachable students are always poping up. In January, the Physic teachers had a chance to hear a person speak from Montana that was strong in astronomy and did some studies with students from Harvard that just graduated. An interesting aspect was to ask them why it is cold during the winter and warm during the summer.
He found out that most thought that the eart is closer during the summer and farther away during the winter. WOW! Not the angle but the distance was there thought on this. This may have been an experience that they had when being a child like near the fire, they became warm and further from the fire they became cold. Was an interesting situation on this. Therefore, during the session on weather at school, we jumped to cover seasons out of the astronomy unit and solved that into weather as well.
Did ask a question to the eight grade on a test to prevent discussion to see their problem solving skills. What season do the cherry trees bloom in Washington D.C. and listed the four seasons. About a third of them missed that. That is better than the two thirds of the lawyers that graduated from Harvard that thought that the summers were hot since the sun is closer to the earth.

The examples and steps in problem solving were very interesting. Bringing up the Apollo 13 was a very good example of this. A modification that is more acceptable in class is the Problem Based Lab instead of Learning. They seem to like that expression more than the Learning word. Oh Well, as long as they get the point.

One example involved the discussion of 8th graders PBL. Need to realize that some classes have to be teachable and acquired the skills in doing this. That is to accept the responsibility of their success in education by their level of self discipline. Some classes label themselves as bad classes, etc. Funny how that works and the pressure by their peers which they want to be accepted. This is being observed when trying to develop hands on lab learning skills or becoming more exposed to science learning tools.

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Educational reform in the traditional high school.

Setting up models can be difficult when just coming into a new school system. Famous sayings like we did not have to do that before or why can't we do it like before you came. Bringing up points that indentify problems useful to students. This involves making the student responsible for their learning and problem solutions. It would be super to have the solutions before the problems, but that is not the case.

This PBL will be very useful with the development of my future PBL activity along with the previous one. Would like to develop on around the Hanta Virus outbreak. The students would be CDC agents, Center for Disease Control, and they would have to find out what is happening in SW U.S. as to why people were dying and dind the cause and how to prevent it. Also, could a solution involve changing a culture that they may have accepted. WOW!
Want to present this to the fall middle school conference in this region.

One of the major setbacks in a program like this is the lack of security found in a text book. You can not always predict where the students will be and what may happen. Of course being more talking and at first rejecting the doing it attitude since they do not know the answer. They want to be told the answer and that is the final answer on their part. Surprise and surprise!
Will use the rubric scale in grading these type of activities. 


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Date: 10-Feb-2001 09:11:00

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Some great comments and insights here. I agree that the posthole is only doing PBL part way. The get the real impact you do have to jump in and get wet like you said. However the posthole is a great opportunity to feel some comfort is what you are doing from both sides of the desk. This can raise learning ownership and lead to more in depth problems. You definitely sound like a strong proponent of PBL. Most science teachers are...your natural discovery environment fits that type of learning. I agree that PBL is probalbly more effective but there is the issus of time and district curriculum to overcome. It takes explainations to administrators etc. to get the process across. It also means sacrificing some content that cannot be covered because of time constraints. These tradeoffs need to be weighed carefully.
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Date: 10-Feb-2001 10:24:00

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I loved your comment regarding the Pioneers and not going West just to think about it! :) This is a wonderful approach for students to begin an assignment. It makes the process so much less threatening and brings it to a level for them to work and prove their theories in a comfort zone.
You may think this is very "simple", and it is, but it is the foundation with which I teach very young ages. Being a Kindergarten teacher for 5 years and now in 1st Grade, I have alwyas felt that unless a student feels secure in his/her environment, the learning process will be inhibited also. Students of all ages must be secure and trust you as the teacher to direct and guide their efforts to a successful outcome. 


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Thanks - it's good to be reminded that a youngster needs to be secure and reside in a 'comfort zone' to facilitate learning. As the maturation process continues, we can 'push' the zone and become a bit more adventurous - as the virtual farmers know. Thought on this?  


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Definately! With more and more children growing up in a home using a computer, these children come to school with an understanding of usage of them as well as being comfortable using them and exploring on them. They aren't afraid of "crashing" them as most of us once were.
Just last week, I introduced the website refdesk.com to my class. In demonstrating a thread of the information at this site, we searched how a magnadoodle works! I wanted to share this as one of my favorite websites in my profile, but have still been unable to get the "submit" button to reappear and change my webpage.  


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I think you can enter the webpage 'refdesk.com' in you page by going to 'Student Tools' and then to 'Edit You Home Page'.

Bless you for allowing the students to actually experience science by introducing them to 'Force' and 'Motion' by using a catapult and allowing them to make the predictions. Great Stuff!  


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With PBL the teacher does have to face some "control" issues. How far do you jump in to help a student solve the problem? How much is giving the answer to them? If I don't give them clues can they ever answer the unknown?

The teacher really has to be able to think outside the box. The teacher also has to have a good command of resources to expose the students to. Offering the resources put not the pages...

It has been mentioned that this needs to begin early in the education process. That is a very good point! Obviously you have to teach the process and help the students get wet. We need to challenge early and keep upping the stakes. You can maintain a comfort level for the students if the teacher is a good guide and mentor. Gives the teacher a lot of responsibility but an element of classroom control changes. This is scary to many teachers.

I think part of the problem for today's students is that their text has always had the answer, to a good extent they were told what to read, when etc. They were not challenged and it is frightening! To me what is more frightening is putting today's seniors out in the world with them expecting "teachers" to be there to give them the answers. They need to get a grip on how they may have mentors but they will be expected to carry their share of the workload of keeping this earth and society going! 


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This article addresses questioning strategies that encourage students to be better thinkers and problem solvers. Yes, the mind of a child (I'm not sure what age group we're talking about here) has amazing problem solving potential when channeled in the right direction. The Constructivist Theory coincides with most science teaching philosophies as teachers try to get their students to become independent workers and problem solvers. I think that all of us can agree that learning is a life long process and hopefully we, as teachers can spark some curiosity and creativity in the minds of kids. PBL is applicable to all subject areas, but I think it may be "easier" to approach in some subjects than others. Teachers need to be continually refining their construction of questions to help teach students to be comfortable with problem solving. Being willing to push kids toward a higher level of thinking is an important part of PBL. From experience, it is sometimes difficult to get kids to sort through information and form educated opinions about things. That also goes along with getting them to ask good questions to gain usable knowledge.

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It is essential that teachers work on bringing real problems into the classroom. Being able to establish a knowledge base that can be used to stretch from textbook to real life is important. Once students can see the relevancy of what they are learning to the world around them, true learning can take place. As educators, how often have we heard, "When will I ever use this?" Depending upon the age and ability of the child, the ability to process through problem solving may take different lengths of time. Many of our traditional schools don't allow for PBL as we are tied to a curriculum that must be supported by positive performance on standardized tests. This article discusses the importance of interdisciplinary curriculum. We've found at our Middle School that students perform much better when all the core subjects are focusing on one topic. They are allowed to find an area of expertise within the topic area and to "go with it." We've seen some amazing projects come out of this approach to teaching. We've found that not only does this stretch student minds, but also allows us (sometimes forces us!) to stretch our minds as well. It is truly rewarding to have students continue to push you for answers to their questions and then to be able to help them answer them independently.

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The use of authentic assessment has been used for quite sometime in science. I find it exciting to watch students muddle through experimentation and come up with answers. (sometimes some brilliant answers, I might add) Last year we were studying bacteria and viruses when the controversial case regarding required vaccination for Anthrax hit the news. My 7th graders took off with that and continue to touch base with me even now with what is going on. (one year later). They even contacted medical personnel at Offutt Airforce Base to present their case to the classroom. The students asked some very riveting questions and really put the speakers on the spot.

I agree the PBL can sometimes take more time than we have to give. Therefore, the idea of "post-holing" is an excellent alternative. Being able to take parts of units and hand them over to PBL is a great way to reinforce what is being taught. Certainly we want to always establish some basis for information and then hand that information over to problem solving. Post-Holing lends itself well to that time constraint.

A side note: even though some of my students truly benefit from PBL, I find it difficult to keep some students "on track." At this age (12-13 yrs) when giving time to work with others, they often prefer to socialize. I find this especially true with some of my low ability and my truly unmotivated students. Sometimes I feel like I would like to take those who enjoy thinking and put them in a separate class or after school group, so they are not being continually distracted or ridiculed by others who call them "nerds." We are piloting an inclusion program this year and struggling with meeting the needs of all of the students. Any suggestions????
 


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It's a little bit like running a snowplow (is this appropriate?) through a very large snowdrift. We have to back up and take several runs at it. I think this is just about the same thing - we just have to be concerned about the plow wearing out.  


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You have hit all the major complaints with PBL. They are very real and important to consider. I don't know what all the answers are. We just have to keep trying. I teach at Marian High School. If you think that keeping your middle school kids on task is difficult...try it with high school girls. Time is also a major constraint to PBL. We have many short schedules to deal with....this hinders this type of learning. The answer I have come up with is to do what you can when you can and to keep after it. That is a little bit of Bill's snowplow analogy.
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Perhaps pairing a couple of the lower, less motivated students together and giving them a problem of interest to them to solve. This would require additional work for you, but I think the outcome would be motivational for them. Place the goal within reach for them to get them started and then raise the level of expectation and difficulty.
Given the ages, possibly present a problem that they actively deal with in their lives to stimulate interest. Socialization is so important in this age group, so why not make it a social issue to explore.
As you indicate, working with and motivating students in this age group proves to be difficult, and pairing up of these individuals would be the key. 


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"We've found at our Middle School that students perform much better when all the core subjects are focusing on one topic. They are allowed to find an area of expertise within the topic area and to "go with it."

Perhaps this goes with the way the Japenese have been teaching, covering less topics, but lots more in depth.My reading on research for preparing kids for stadardized tests, points that direction too. 


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I am glad you brought up the research on learning in the Oriental culture. The percentage of students that succeed is very high. Their study methods are different and their grasp of learning is markedly different than what occurs in the USA. 


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Just a couple of thoughts. Finding the strengths of the inclusion students. Can they draw, how do they learn,...
Finding their strengths so they feel like they can contribute. Many have felt unwanted or not capable because when they tried earlier they did not do the task "fast enough" so someone else always "took" it from them. We never know their past completely but finding one positive thing they can do and giving them the time to do it will do wonders to having them stretch their wings. The socializing is always an issue. Short term rubrics to indicate daily progress sometimes overcomes some of this. We often tend to grade on content as opposed to other skills we all must display in the adult world. We need to build assessment of ability to stay on task, work with others, demonstrate leadership, demonstrate cooperativeness etc. into daily rubrics we mark off as we observe and assist the students. They will respond to this. Also allowing them to evaluate their daily behavior or progress in building these skills makes them more aware of and responsible for their time management skills.

Your comment about age and problem solving... I used to say to my child development students that it was a good thing we learn to walk when we are young or we would never try! Learning to crawl, walk, etc. certainly are problems we all solved at a very young age. 


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PBL is a new concept. The positives are that the problems could be based out of an area of interest for the individual students. It would be very motivating for an engineering student to do work on an actual problem. The negatives are that it would be very time consuming from an instructor point of view, and difficult unless one was already familiar with the subject matter (engineering, for example). Another problem would be finding the time to cover the already required material as well as the PBL’s. Perhaps a change would have to be made, using the PBL’s instead of textbook material.
        Some good posthole material that has occurred to me are units on area of various geometric shapes, units on percentages, and units on problem-solving strategies. Algebraic equations and ratios could be formed and solved in many PBL situations. Perhaps a unit requiring all the above skills, would be a good review after studying them individually.
PBL2.        “Experience is always necessary for intellectual development&the subject must be active&” This is definitely a good educational philosophy. As educators, we must strive for this goal! I feel this is especially true in the area of mathematics. It is not a spectator sport, but rather one in which a student needs to be totally active.
The constructivist classroom provides such an environment, using prior knowledge to learn more with the teacher as a guide. Again, this is important in mathematics, building new theorems and concepts from current knowledge. Tutoring is a good environment in which to foster these skills in a student-encouraging participation in learning, problem solving, communication, and study skills.
        When doing our projects it will be good to incorporate, the format laid out in this article: What do we know? What do we need to know? What should we do? This will guide our students through the problem presented.
PBL3.        Again, this article emphasizes “what we know, what we need to know, and what we need to do” in problem solving. This is very practical in everyday life, so we will be teaching our students life skills if we incorporate these techniques in PBL. When students assume the role of scientist, farmer, or whatever, in problem solving they become personally involved in the solution. They are highly motivated to solve the situation.
        The term “post-hole” means a “mini-course” to teach a particular objective. This is what our projects would be well used to do. Perhaps a mini-course on cost analyst, area of farm plots, yield, and so on would give students reason to study math as they would see an answer to the age-old question: When am I going to use this anyway? How refreshing to know that we could send them to a web-site to totally put their knowledge to work. Then they would be motivated to continue their search for knowledge. I like the authors comment, “This is as authentic as learning can get!”.
PBL4. Problem-based learning is a technique that can be used to allow students to come to full understanding of subject matter. This is because it gives them a practical reason to understand the material. This article pointed out how this is true in many many subject areas, showing how it is utilized in counseling. And once again, the three-step problem-solving technique was presented: What do we know? What do we need to know? What are we going to do? We would do well to incorporate this into out PBL projects. Moreover, probably into out life skills, solving our own everyday problems.
        The young people interviewed expressed a great appreciation for being independent and incorporating their own ideas into problem solving. This would probably we especially true for adult learners and older teens who are at a point in their lives where they are searching for independence and seeking out their own areas of interest.
        Math was utilized in the project about standardized tests in that charts were created, data was analyzed, and conclusions made. So the students learned about math as well as standardized tests.

 


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" Perhaps a unit requiring all the above [math] skills, would be a good review after studying them individually." and
"How refreshing to know that we could send them to a web-site to totally put their knowledge to work."

Two absolutely great comments. 


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I liked the comment "the teacher as a guide." It's appropriate for all PBL things. It's as the saying about what kind of teachers are you, "the guide on the side ? or the Sage on the stage ?"
There is a time for each, but one must know when and how to use it. It is a part of a creating a balanced educational experience for all students. 


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I enjoyed reading your interpretations. Good ideas for posthole activities for making math usable! 


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I appreciate reading content used in a lower elementary setting!
While I agree that using the Franklin series would be excellent in setting these young learners on course, I feel it would also put the pieces of the puzzle together to compare and contrast these pet problems with other information the students bring to class. Having the children list their informatational data and using it in the solution proves to be beneficial. Also, a great builder of "mental files" is to compare familiar texts...other Children's Literature that they are familiar with. Perhaps contrasting it to The Day Jimmy's Boa Ate the Laundry. Together with this story, the children are able to use two bases of analytical theorizing and calculate their own theories and solutions.

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I couldn't agree with A. W. Combs more! Having taught Kindergarten for 5 years, I was easily able to apply his summarization of characteristics necessary to create an effective learning situation and problem-based learning strategies to my own beliefs.

He explaings that Problem Based Learners acquire new knowledge and meaning through a process of personal inquiry. These methods are to be individualized and meaningful to the learner. His descriptions perfectly describe a Kindergarten environment! These students are given many chances to assimilate new information and experiences in the "play" that is done each day with the careful planning and guidance of the teacher.

During the first quarter of every year, I worked painstakingly to provide the type of environment where these 5 year old did feel safe and trusting in me and their classmates. We often had discussions pertaining to just that and "how it feels when..." to demonstrate to them the importance of an accepting and safe situation. Once the issues of trust and security were established, these little students flourished.

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This description of PBL brings to mind one of the lessons that took place in my 1st grade room just a couple weeks ago. We were on a unit in Science learning about force and motion. Having been given a worksheet labeled Predictions and Results, the students were to record their predictions following a discussion that our class had about a catapulting experiment we were carrying out. I had put a ball of clay on a spoon and we discussed the possibilities, angles, and tried to brainstorm a multitude of scenerios and probabilities. After explaining exactly how we would catapult the clay, they were to journal their predictions. After carrying out the experiment, they also recorded the results. The excitement was fierce seeing them squirm discussing the predictions and telling me about all they knew regarding catapulting objects!

"Post-Hole Problems"
Stirring the enthusiasm of 1st graders is most effectively done in my classroom with the introduction of a enthusiastically read Children's book. One example of a "post-hole" problem that I presented them with would be after reading a book entitled "If Cows Could Fly". The assignment after reading the book was to write their own creation entitled, "If Cows Could Fly, then..."
This clearly was a creatively fun assignment that stirred much humor and imagination in these young learners.
 


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The kindergarten area that you termed play, becomes the "exploration time" for my third graders. All of the children also need support from each other.You know that book, "All I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten."It is the time for the " planting " of ideas in the K level, which should flower and grow into fields of knowledge for their lifetimes. 


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It sounds like you already do some PBL after you establish that safety net of the first quarter. You mentioned several great ideas. You obviously have a lot of creatitity ( frankly I admire all Kindergarden teachers I don't know how you do it!). Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to what you come up with for this class
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It sounds like you are truly a believer in constuctivism. I like your ideas and thoughts. My twin brother who teaches in Cambridge, Mass. teaches probability to first and second graders using dice and a bingo card. It is a popular learning activity and generates much discussion amongst the young students. 


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Problem based Learning (PBL) is not a new idea to me; however, I have not read much about it recently. My district, however, does require that all students do Performance Based Assessments (PBA) as a part of their graduation requirements. These PBA’s are to be authentic tasks that a student might encounter in the “real world.” I think that PBL activities are very real and could easily be written as PBA’s. I enjoyed reading these articles and hope to hear more about a variety of PBL experiences that teachers have used with their students.

Article 1: This article had persuasive information about how important PBL type activities are for students. I think most educators agree by now that we need to help students become life-long learners. There is little hope that we could every have students memorize all the information they might need in their future. In fact, the article points out that much of what we currently would say is “important information” will be outdated in a few years.

I liked the examples that were given. Although the 1st grade example was a rather simple task, I think that my 9th grade students might need to start with a simple task like the Franklin activity. Most of my students are very much accustomed to finding the right answer and getting a good grade (or not finding it and failing). They have played that “game” through most of their schooling. A simple activity might be best for helping them make a transition to this type of learning. The district does have 9th graders use a matrix of sorts to select the best car to buy (much like Franklin needs to choose a pet). The car buying task is much more complex than the Franklin activity; however, the use of the matrix for decision making is difficult for many students. Maybe using a matrix for a more simple activity might be a good first step.

Article 2: This article discusses the motivation of students while doing PBL. I would have to agree. Even though PBA (as explained above) is not the same as PBL, it has similar characteristics. My experience with the PBA’s is that most students are motivated to complete these tasks even though they are often hesitant to first attempt a PBA because they aren’t sure what the “right answer” is. It is very important, as stated in this article, that the teacher become a guide in order to help students build confidence in their ability to complete the task (or offer a solution to the problem). Acting as a guide can be very difficult for teachers and parents who are used to providing information to their students/children.

One year I had a chance to work with a group of students and other parents in an Odyssey of the Mind competition. This is a competition where students are given a problem or task and they need to find a way to solve it. As I read this article, I was struck by how much this competition resembled PBL. Students who are successful in Odyssey of the Mind, have developed many of the skills that are needed to succeed at PBL and probably in the “real world” too.

I really liked the description of the final product. I believe that the presentation of the solution is an important step. It is great to have solved a problem; however, if that solution cannot be communicated in a way that others will understand, it isn’t very useful.

Article 3: I really liked this article, and I think this is one to share with colleagues in order to open discussions about PBL. I teach on an interdisciplinary team with a science, social studies and math teacher (I am the language arts teacher). I can see how I could easily convince them to design and implement a post-hole problem. It would/could act like a good interdisciplinary PBA. The trick would be to come up with a good post-hole problem. I like the idea of the post-hole problems like the German art gallery problem that only took several days and not an entire quarter or semester.

After reading these articles, I am motivated to start collecting ideas for PBL type activities. There are plenty of real problems in the world to work with. I guess I can now see designing a PBL for my class as my own PBL experience.
·        First I identify the problem: Our students are not currently learning what they need to know in order to be successful in the “real world” of today. We need to do something different in schools.
·        Next, I can review what I know about the way students learn and what they need to learn.
·        Then I can identify what I need to know and begin to gather information --like reading these articles.
·        Finally, I can collaborate with my interdisciplinary team and other teachers taking this on-line course to find and evaluate possible solutions (such as PBL/PBA).

 


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You have some great insights....

transition the students into the PBL enviroment by starting small and building. This gives a certain comfort level and hopefully a successful situation.

Interdisciplinary PBL....this is where the real power is at in my opinion. Students are immersed in the problem from all angles....they really can work on some complex issues....it also removes some of the burden from just one teacher by allowing that collaboration.

Odyssey and many other of these types of contents are definitely PBL type activities.

I am glad that you are encouraged and liked what you read. By the way are you getting the course e-mails from me. I have gotten several bounces on an e-mail that was entered wrong. Your e-mail seems correct now. Any thoughts...
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xxxxxxxxx, I liked your discussion of the PBL articles and thought you had some excellent points. Having taught 9th grade Math in the past, I wonder how much time you spend planning and collaborating with the other teachers on your interdisiplinary team. That is something I would have been interested in trying but never did (I haven't taught for eight years). I can really see the merits of this approach. I also liked your points about starting small and working towards more complex PBL activities. I agree that many students are programmed to search for a specific answer and are reluctant to try things in a new way. Jxxxxxxxx


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I agree. I'm reminded of a letter from an ex-physicist who said something like:
"I always hated you. You would never give me a direct answer and I had to figure it out for myself. I wanted to read the textbook, find the answer and report it back on the exams. It never worked that way." 


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Great thoughts. I think there is a PBL webquest activity done by students in the very first Virtual Farm class. It was done by teachers in Louisville. They took a problem that had a large enough scope that it could be dealt with in several disciplines.

Getting several disciplines to construct a problem together can be fun. (Everyone has to be committed and have the time!!!) What it provides is learning that doesn't have to begin and end in the 48 or 50 minute period that the science class meets. In essence the students "carry" the problem from class to class. The teacher who has the expertise in an area helps the students in that aspect of the problem solving. For example the speech or drama teacher with presentation skills, the Language Arts teachers with spelling, grammar, outlining or webbing the problem, etc. Maybe the problem is based in the science area and the other areas teach their discipline skills through helping the students reach the solution and its presentation.  


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As we near the end of this week, I feel like I am starting to get a handle on how to maneuver on the web and through the course itself. I did get behind last week due to being sick but am hoping to be all caught up soon. At the start of this week I was unsure if I could be successful in the class. One of the drawbacks for me is that I am not currently teaching and so I wondered how I could make this relevant for someone. Two ideas come to mind. I could create my project with the idea that one of my own children at home could use it for something they are doing in school this spring. Or perhaps the project I end up doing could be something one of our other "farmers" could use in their classroom.
I also find it challenging to brainstorm at times since I have been away from teaching for awhile. When I did teach, it was a traditional classroom at the high school level with 50 minute periods. But so far I have feel like I have learned a lot already. I like the idea of being able to do everything on-line and at my convenience. Reading through the discussion board and responding really does give me a chance for interaction, perhaps more than in a traditional class setting. I think its great that some of our farmers are teaching in the same building, that would certainly enhance the experience. The quick responses of our instructors is encouraging to me. 


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xxxxxxx I did not have a class when I took this course. In fact I have completed my master's with all the classes that required work toward a classroom setting. It has been interesting and allowed me to be creative with lessons for the general population as well as lessons that could be used in a class in a school that I did for teachers who were friends. I have delved into Alzheimer's because I did not know enough and now I am doing a series of lessons for teachers on assistive technology. Hopefully it can be used as a teacher's inservice or a web study or an extra lesson for our teachers in training at UNO.

I hope you enjoy this class as much as I did. It is a good way to ease back into the pattern of schooling. I too liked the web aspect. It provided a lot of challenges but I learned so much. It may help to know there are no "Right" answers to much of what we explore in this class. It truly is an exploration in learning that challenges us as teachers and exteachers to risk! 


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What was your reaction to the PBL articles? 


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I like your web page. The Utah State site is a great one, isn't it? They have a grant which allows them to keep adding material to it. I wish I had had access to the site when I was a tyke...... I might not have slept through some of those agonizing 'proofs'. 


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In reading through the PBL articles I had the following general thoughts/reactions:

1. It seems like a lot of the scenarios involved gifted students. It also seems like the scenarios involved the areas of science, social studies and english/ literature. There werenít too many examples for math. I think that one could incorporate PBL activities at any age level or subject area.

2. I remember trying to incorporate some strategies using Cooperative Learning where lessons were designed to have students work together in groups and each take on a different role to accomplish a task. The first few times I tried this students were confused and it felt awkward but I was wanting to get away from total reliance on the textbook and wanting to encourage collaboration among students. So often students work independantly and some students are not even willing to ask questions when they donít understand something.

In article 1, the authors were matching different problem scenarios with different stategies such as SCAN, FIND, SELECT and PLAN. In planning PBL activities it would be important to think about these stategies and what directtion you wanted students to take - perhaps even teach these stategies to students early on. It is hard for me to imagine teaching these in a high school math course. Having questions reside with the students not just the teacher was noted. It seems that some students only wanted one way to solve math problems and I would try to get them to see that thereís more than one way to do (solve) a problem. The statement that information is changing with intimidating speed struck me because I think about how far technology has come in the years since Iíve stopped teaching and it is intimidating!

One of the ideas discussed in article 2 was how teachers take on different roles in constructivist classrooms. I liked the goals of PBL being designed to maximize student participation, foster problem solving and self-education, student self assessment, increase communication skills, improve ability to access and use information. In the teaching of math, I was very closely tied to the textbook but the relevance of the skills we were learning and the types of problems we were solving didnít hold a lot of meaning. Oftentimes ìword problemsî were all lumped together in one section of the textbook and many students hated these. I used to tell students that solving word problems was the whole reason we were learning the skills. But integrating problem solving in the curriculum and making it relevant to students and also having students collaborate, I can see how I could make even teaching math more of a PBL experience.

In article 3 the authors discuss how in PBL, students meet an ill-structured problem before they receive any instruction. That is radically different than the way I used to teach. Using postholes seemed a manageable way to incorporate PBL goals.

The Article 4 three step problem solving process of What do we know?, What do we need to know?, What are we going to do? seems like a good, simple approach in starting to use PBL in the classroom. 


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Date: 17-Mar-2001 12:58:00

Author: xxxxxx

Subject: Re: PBL Articles 

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xxxxxx You have really looked at these carefully and gotten to the heart of the matter. Math is skills but so important in every aspect of life. Working from a problem-based perspective would make the subject more relevant, interesting and probably therefore less intimidating. Even students that know their math skills don't think to apply it with a sale. When they see 33% off the thought of finding 1/10 of the cost x 3 taken from the original cost of the item to give them an approximate sale cost seems impossible to them OR for that matter dividing by 3 and then multiplying by 2. Getting them to see when to use math techniques is so important especially for girls who seem so intimidated by math. Good insight on all of the articles. 


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